Discussion:
how to move Mulberry to a new computer?
mulberryfan
2006-08-04 20:45:38 UTC
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Next week, I expect to get a new desktop computer. Like my present
one, it will run WindowsXP Pro. I have Mulberry 4.0.4 on my present
computer, and I'd like to move it to the new one. What do I have to
do to be sure that all my settings and preferences will be retained?
Are there specific files that I have to be sure to copy over to the
new computer? Anything else that I need to be sure to do?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Joan
Iassen Hristov
2006-08-04 22:23:11 UTC
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Depending on how you installed Mulberry there are 2 folders involved. The
application folder and the user settings folder. The user settings folder
can be under the Application folder and then it's one folder.

Just copy them over from the old machine to the new and all will be
preserved.

If you insist on "installing" Mulberry on the new system with the
installer, copy the user settings folder to the new machine and open the
preferences file (Mulberry.mbp)

--On Friday, August 04, 2006 20:45 +0000 mulberryfan
Post by mulberryfan
Next week, I expect to get a new desktop computer. Like my present
one, it will run WindowsXP Pro. I have Mulberry 4.0.4 on my present
computer, and I'd like to move it to the new one. What do I have to
do to be sure that all my settings and preferences will be retained?
Are there specific files that I have to be sure to copy over to the
new computer? Anything else that I need to be sure to do?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Joan
mulberryfan
2006-08-04 22:54:11 UTC
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Post by Iassen Hristov
Depending on how you installed Mulberry there are 2 folders
involved. The
Post by Iassen Hristov
application folder and the user settings folder. The user settings folder
can be under the Application folder and then it's one folder.
Just copy them over from the old machine to the new and all will be
preserved.
If you insist on "installing" Mulberry on the new system with the
installer, copy the user settings folder to the new machine and open the
preferences file (Mulberry.mbp)
Thanks very much, Iassen, for your quick response. I'm a bit
embarrassed to admit that I didn't know there was more than one way
to install Mulberry, and I have no idea which way I've been using. I
have a file called Mulberry_v4_0_4.exe. If I click on it, it will
install Mulberry. Is this an "installer"? If not, what IS an installer?

Thanks again. Joan
Kenneth Porter
2006-08-05 00:40:51 UTC
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On Friday, August 04, 2006 6:23 PM -0400 Iassen Hristov
Post by Iassen Hristov
Depending on how you installed Mulberry there are 2 folders involved. The
application folder and the user settings folder. The user settings folder
can be under the Application folder and then it's one folder.
There's also two registry trees. The one in HKLM/Software has the
registration information, while HKCU/Software has the preferences. (Are
there any associations in HKROOT that need to be carried over? I'd guess
the mailto handler is specified in there.)
mulberryfan
2006-08-05 01:19:38 UTC
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Post by Kenneth Porter
There's also two registry trees. The one in HKLM/Software has the
registration information, while HKCU/Software has the preferences. (Are
there any associations in HKROOT that need to be carried over? I'd guess
the mailto handler is specified in there.)
Hi, Kenneth. I'm hoping that I won't have to mess with the Registry.
If I follow Iassen's instructions, will that be sufficient?

Thanks. Joan
Jens Adam
2006-08-05 03:05:45 UTC
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Hi Joan,

you have the installer (Mulberry_v4_0_4.exe), that's fine.

1) Start Mulberry on your current setup, load the preferences, "save
as..." and store that .mbp file somewhere.
2) See if there's something in the Address Books, Certifcates and
Mailboxes folders in your Mulberry program directory you'd like to save.
3) Print the mail with your registration key or write it down.
4) Install Mulberry on the new computer, put your saved folders
back into the directory, start Mulberry, enter the key and load the
saved preferences file.

That's it, I suppose.

Regards,
Jens
mulberryfan
2006-08-05 03:20:51 UTC
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Jens, thanks very much!! This is exactly what I needed to know.

Joan
Post by Jens Adam
Hi Joan,
you have the installer (Mulberry_v4_0_4.exe), that's fine.
1) Start Mulberry on your current setup, load the preferences, "save
as..." and store that .mbp file somewhere.
2) See if there's something in the Address Books, Certifcates and
Mailboxes folders in your Mulberry program directory you'd like to save.
3) Print the mail with your registration key or write it down.
4) Install Mulberry on the new computer, put your saved folders
back into the directory, start Mulberry, enter the key and load the
saved preferences file.
That's it, I suppose.
Regards,
Jens
Kenneth Porter
2006-08-05 12:36:50 UTC
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Post by Jens Adam
1) Start Mulberry on your current setup, load the preferences, "save
as..." and store that .mbp file somewhere.
Good point. That should copy all the preferences from the Registry to the
mbp file. It just won't save the registration info (which is in HKLM, not
HKCU).

(For lurkers, HKLM is the Local Machine part of the registry that stores
host-wide settings. HKCU is Current User and stores the logged-in user's
settings. The registry is just some trees of settings. It's only "magical"
because you need a special tool (regedit) to manipulate it, instead of the
text editor common in other environments, and because all programs'
settings are in one place, instead of in each program's directory. That
makes it easier to break more things with a small mistake.)
mulberryfan
2006-08-05 01:15:57 UTC
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Post by Iassen Hristov
Depending on how you installed Mulberry there are 2 folders
involved. The
Post by Iassen Hristov
application folder and the user settings folder. The user settings folder
can be under the Application folder and then it's one folder.
Just copy them over from the old machine to the new and all will be
preserved.
If you insist on "installing" Mulberry on the new system with the
installer, copy the user settings folder to the new machine and open the
preferences file (Mulberry.mbp)
I tried to find the folders you've mentioned. All I can find is a
large Mulberry folder in C:\Program Files. Just about everything
seems to be there. But do I need to copy the entire folder? If not,
what do I need, other than preferences.mbp? I'm a little surprised,
actually, at that preferences file. I'm almost positive that I've
made changes in the past two years, but the file carries the date
11/14/2004. Does that seem reasonable?

I also looked under %AppData%. There I found a Cyrusoft folder, but
there was very little in it that seemed useful. I suspect I can
ignore it.

I'm still eager to find out what "the installer" is, and which method
of installing Mulberry I've used.

Thanks again. Joan
Arnold DeRoy
2006-08-05 19:13:25 UTC
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--On Friday, August 04, 2006 8:45 PM +0000 mulberryfan
Post by mulberryfan
Next week, I expect to get a new desktop computer. Like my present
one, it will run WindowsXP Pro. I have Mulberry 4.0.4 on my present
computer, and I'd like to move it to the new one. What do I have to
do to be sure that all my settings and preferences will be retained?
Are there specific files that I have to be sure to copy over to the
new computer? Anything else that I need to be sure to do?
One thing I did that helped:

File | Preferences
Save As --- placed on thumb drive.

This then allowed for all my settings (3 email accounts, fonts and
signatures) to be restored on the new drive.

If you use this and copy the data directory to CD/DVD you now have an
excellent crash recovery.
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mulberryfan
2006-08-06 23:28:51 UTC
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Post by Arnold DeRoy
File | Preferences
Save As --- placed on thumb drive.
This then allowed for all my settings (3 email accounts, fonts and
signatures) to be restored on the new drive.
If you use this and copy the data directory to CD/DVD you now have an
excellent crash recovery.
Thanks VERY much, Arnold! I'm really glad you said this, since it
prompted me to follow the exact procedure you described. To my
surprise, the preferences file that resulted from File | Preferences
--> Save As was almost twice the size of the preferences.mbp file
sitting in the Program Files\Mulberry directory on my hard drive!
That was the file I had saved a day or so ago. I was a bit
disconcerted that it bore a 2004 date even though I've modified the
Preferences many times in the past two years (and I mentioned this
fact in an earlier message). I searched for another .mbp file, but I
turned up nothing relevant.

I have no idea how to explain the small size of the file I saved a few
days ago (45.3K vs. 81.9K for the file I saved via your procedure),
nor the fact that the smaller file has a 2004 date.

I assume that after I install Mulberry on the new computer, I can
simply replace the default preferences.mbp file with the 81.9K
preferences file I've just saved and also replace whatever the default
mailbox.mba file is with the one from my present installation, and I
should be good to go, yes?

Again, thanks very much!

Joan
Arnold DeRoy
2006-08-07 11:14:34 UTC
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--On Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:28 PM +0000 mulberryfan
Post by mulberryfan
I assume that after I install Mulberry on the new computer, I can
simply replace the default preferences.mbp file with the 81.9K
preferences file I've just saved and also replace whatever the default
mailbox.mba file is with the one from my present installation, and I
should be good to go, yes?
What I do is place the file in the root of the data directory and load up
Mulberry, go to File Preferences | Load

Point to the file and it will recover the data. Double check the settings
then save or save as if you wish a different location.

Have not restored the file on top of the older one as of yet (Mulberry
would need to be closed for this to work).

Of course if you have a good backup program it may work on transfer to the
new computer, just like the KISS method -- yes I do backup to tape daily
never needed to use with the export (save as preferences etc).

As always YMMV. Good luck
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